046665-081512

[blogruz]

Here is the text I was talking about in the previous message

http://quaternity4.blogspot.fr/2016/03/46665.html

[blogruz]

It took me almost 10 years, but now I know that MZD could not choose the exact number 46665 of his PO Box in Sep 1999. He sure could have chosen 665 among several free numbers the PO 90046 of West Hollywood could offer, but 46- was the obliged prefix.
So it's obvious that MZD chose the number of his PO Box for the document # 46665 (2 letter envelopes), and that he probably didn't know about the 46665 in Aronofsky's movie.
So the incredible coincidence seems to be proved: in the 2 only works I know of, ending with a number that is a riddle hiding the title of the work, the previous number is 46665 !!!
I work on a bigger text about this, I'll let know when it's ready.

[blogruz]

Searching 46665 on the forums, I found someone on the French one enquired about its domain name in 2003, and found
Registrant:
MZD (OFLEAVES-DOM)
P.O. Box 46665
LA, CA 90046
US
I don't know if in the USA one can choose his P.O. Box number, anyhow either it shows the number is important for MZD, either it is a big co-incidence.

[blogruz]

About the number 46665 presence in the same conditions in HOL and Pi by Darren Aronofsky, I just learnt that 'pi' means '' in ancient Egyptian.
Another puzzling thing is that the Exodus started from Pi-Ramesses, 'the of the son of Ra', and the next step towards Canaan was Succoth (there's already a thread Succoth).

[blogruz]

Chef = 3-8-5-6

I just learnt a possible origin of the French expression "22!" meaning "Beware!"
It was used by workers to tell the chief was coming, because chief is in French
CHEF = 3-8-5-6
MZD lived in France and might have learnt that.

I have something better for "Chiffre 389506" (note 75):
3-8-9-5-6 = CHIEF
all letters are in CHIFFRE, which means both 'digit' and 'code' (cypher) in French (.fr!)
the etymology is arabic ZIFR, meaning 'zero', maybe the additional 0

[Ellimist]

In fact, a courier running an errand could be truant in that job.

[consider us dead]

An errand is something a courier might be asked to do...

[blogruz]

ars magna

The other day, not thinking at all of HOL, it suddenly came to my mind that DARREN was the anagram of ERRAND.
I know HOL essentially by its French translation, where Johnny TRUANT became Johnny ERRAND, and I didn't notice that when I found the same number 46665 in DARREN Aronofsky's Pi, as well as in document 046665 given by this ERRAND (in my French edition).
Actually there is good reason why TRUANT couldn't be kept as any French reader seeing this word would think of TRUAND, French for hoodlum.
ERRANT (wanderer) is near TRUANT, and maybe the translator made a private joke ERRANT/ERRAND, thinking of TRUANT/TRUAND.

[blogruz]

I had a look at the thread Succoth :

on page 18 there is mention of the being on the corner of succoth and ash tree lane...

Succoth is a word beginning with 15th letter in the Hebrew Alphabet, and the feast asks any Jew to LEAVE one's and live in a hut, from Tishri 15 to Tishri 21 (the first month of the new year).
I looked in a dictionary for ashtree in Hebrew and that's
MYLH, which reads mela.
MYLH, read milla, means "word".
MYLH, read mila, means "circumcision".
I'll give the word in Hebrew letters if necessary (but people knowing Hebrew will not need that).

[heartbreak]

As far as MZD's origin is concerned. I have read that his father was from Warsaw, Poland and was taken to one of the Nazi concentration camps after the Warsaw Uprising. Whether or not he was Jewish, I do not know for sure. It is possible.

[blogruz]

When a HOL affair is over...

Sorry Heartbreak I don't often visit the forum so I missed your insight about Chiffre 389506.
Quite clever !

I had recently another idea about 08-15-12 (= H-O-L).
MZD is of Jewish origin, isn't he? So maybe he knows some bits of Hebrew.
Letters 08-15-12 in the Hebrew alphabet are
'H(et) S(amekh) L(amed)
which together form the word
'HaSaL, which means "finished", "over".
The expression 'hasal ha sippur means "the story is over".
It may look meaningful to have this 'HaSaL about at the end of the book, and it might even be a reason for its title.
In my beginning is my end, in my end is my beginning...

[fearful_syzygy]

Inkognito

[heartbreak]

"Chiffre 389506":
...CHIFFRE, which means both 'digit' and 'code' (cypher) in French (.fr!)

("Chiffre 389506: Inkognito, 1993")

Not much to add to this but Inkognito... incognito... a code or cypher might be a message that is incognito... and when printed it might be in ink... page 389 is the first page of Navi's letter to Karen which contains the line "a code to decipher". Also, the struck lines in red, which is kind of odd considering it is supposed to be a letter written by Navidson, why would Zampano try to eliminate some of it?

Page 506 contains an acrostic in the lower half of the page (emphasis added).

premonition--whatever this is--as well as that thing
in the foyer away, a roar to erase all recollection,
protecting me?, still?, obviously great enough to
exceed the pitch of all the equipment chewing up wood,
stone and earth, and certainly much louder than the

Johnny talks about finding his father's roar within his head sending a memory. The roar within the bull playing the pipes. The producer of the music being incognito.

[noevilstar]

coming from some beautiful H0L artwork ofleaves.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5442">here,

that last pic is one of my favorites....it got me thinking though...Johnny scribbled some drawings similar with halls upon halls upon halls in the appendix...however, we know how the adjusts to the thoughts and emotions of the journeyman. in a way, each room doesn't exist if no one is in it right? If this is true it brings up a couple qs?

First, as the responds to the psyche, how does it respond to conflicting ideas. For example, scared Tom at the top of the stairs and brave Navy at the bottom. The way Holloway starts to snap and Jed and Wax continue. Has the become its own thing for Holloway, and it own thing for Jed and Wax, or does it react in some way to the opposing ideas. Does the provide a unique experience for all who travel it.
Second, what then are the greater implications of "arrivals" in the journey. Why does one arrive at the grand hall, or the staircase, or the various structures of Navy's final journey.

[ninetwelve]

playing around with the color codes as suggested above 046665 comes out to be a pretty close approximatin of Celedon. I know this cuz I used to sell fine china and celedon was a hugely populr color.

Celedon i used int he book somewhere in the book when Dannyboy gives 'pastel' approximations of the green / red / blue / yellow (Incidentally the same colors that indicate patches on my Alesis Ion synthesizer). Usefull?