sam and hailey pictures?

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

I was web surfing for more info or fansites on , when i found these two apparent 'pictures' of Sam and Hailey:

http://www.markzdanielewski.info/SBio.html

http://www.markzdanielewski.info/HBio.html

Do they have any validity? Or are they just fan inspired theories?

[Ellimist]

Heh. Those are Exploration Z's inspired images of Sam and Hailey. Simple as that.

Obviously based on the text of the book. I imagined Sam as white until that one phrase: "negroid boy." There is other evidence as well.

Good thread.

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

Heh. Those are Exploration Z's inspired images of Sam and Hailey. Simple as that.

Obviously based on the text of the book. I imagined Sam as white until that one phrase: "negroid boy." There is other evidence as well.

Good thread.

That may be but page Sam 102 the Heel Commissioner says "we don't administer to her kind"?

Personally, i interpret 'races' in OR as something really indefinite.

[Ellimist]

Because the Creep is purple?

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

Because the Creep is purple?

yes

[mikelisse]

I never really even though about putting a face to either one of them. I was sort of afraid to look at these pictures, hoping they were not MZD's actual ideas. When I was reading this book I actually just pictured myself as Sam, and my best friend as Hailey. We actually have always said "we are the dream!" so when I read that in the book it was pretty cool.

Race also never came to mind. They are the compass of all that is. I found them to be transcendental when it comes to race, religion, and everything, really.

I don't think it is necessary to put pictures to Sam&Hailey but to each his own.

[CpVb006]

Sam and Hailey, as far as I'm concerned, are a constantly changing entity. I do not think Sam is black any more than he is white.

Mikelisse, I actually ended up doing the same thing. While reading I saw Sam looking like myself, and Hailey a best friend.

Cool.

[heartbreak]

This has been one of my thoughts as well. They are allone...all one. All people are one.

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

I thought the idea of allone took a more direct form when at one point them, or some people, when they were calling sam and hailey a big list of randomly assorted slurs.

[Typhonae]

I always perceived them as all races, and no race, just existing. If that makes sense.

[g@rp]

I've allways imagine their face mooooving (like a kind of morphing effect, you know?) except one thing : their eyes.

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

I've allways imagine their face mooooving (like a kind of morphing effect, you know?) except one thing : their eyes.

thats good, and quotable!

[MissDelial]

garp, that was awesome! (Sorry, it won't let me post a at symbol!)

I personally saw them differently depending on who's side I was reading. In one Hailey was confident and in control and the other, Sam was fierce and steady.

[Chiu Mun-Jun]

garp, that was awesome! (Sorry, it won't let me post a at symbol!)

I personally saw them differently depending on who's side I was reading. In one Hailey was confident and in control and the other, Sam was fierce and steady.

you mean g@rp?

[Ellimist]

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[Flicka]

No, i imagined them to be set in their appearance.
I imagined Hailey to have alabaster skin and blonde hair, and sam to be a little darker.

[shadowboxer]

kirsten dunst for hailey

[FreezingInferno]

Oh hey first post~

Coincidentally enough, a major player in one of the random worlds in my own head is named Sam. The girl he longs for, Elyse.

I pictured Sam and Hailey as my own "Sam and Elyse". ..As I often do when I read things.

So hey and hello and whatnot. I'm in this madness to the end.