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    pg. 438 - "on"

    does anybody know why the word "on" is written twice on pg. 438? its at the point where Navy is climbing through the stairs in the ceiling and the words are going sideways toward the edge of the page and then swap to point towards the spine. MZD doesn't make typos, right? why would there be two 'on's? double ONtendre maybe? surely there is something deeper here.

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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

    Quote Originally Posted by hugopunkhugo
    does anybody know why the word "on" is written twice on pg. 438?...MZD doesn't make typos, right?.
    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    ...lodges on on a step...
    Do you consider Danielewski to be infallible?

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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    ...lodges on on a step...
    Do you consider Danielewski to be infallible?
    I'm wondering if that is actually a mistake. Read a certain way, that phrase could mean this: ...lodges on onto a step.

    A bit like saying latches on onto a steel pipe.

    I'm pretty sure it's grammatically wrong, but it could be just one of MZD's (or whoever the fictional author is) stylistic deviances.

    And also, Ellimist, MZD stated that there are no mistakes in the book. Now we can consider that as an attempt to cleverly disguise even unintentional typos as deliberate clues, but I choose to look at it the other way. I choose to believe that MZD most certainly did intend every single mistake/typo present in the book. I don't consider MZD to be infallible, but the way I see it, there is no reason why we should consider one typo (pisces) as deliberate and another (a missing period or one of the many mistakes Johnny's writing features) as a genuine error.
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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

    Quote Originally Posted by sutrix
    I choose to believe that MZD most certainly did intend every single mistake/typo present in the book. I don't consider MZD to be infallible, but the way I see it, there is no reason why we should consider one typo (pisces) as deliberate and another (a missing period or one of the many mistakes Johnny's writing features) as a genuine error.
    What about the non-blue house on page 708? Would that be considered something that has significance, according to your beliefs?

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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    What about the non-blue on page 708? Would that be considered something that has significance, according to your beliefs?
    Yup. Don't ask me what that significance is, though. I don't know (not even a half baked theory). Yet.

    Why? Has the blue house on p. 708 been confirmed as an official mistake, or something?
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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

    Quote Originally Posted by sutrix
    Why? Has the blue on p. 708 been confirmed as an official mistake, or something?
    nah... wish I knew, though...

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    Re: pg. 438 - "on"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    Why? Has the blue on p. 708 been confirmed as an official mistake, or something?
    Not sure if this counts as "confirmation," but it has apparently been "fixed" in softcover printings later than the 11th. (See anomaly no. 6).
    signatures are dumb

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    ,

    pg. 708 is just a Random house (publishing), not THE on Ash Tree Lane.

    nevermind. i thought this could be in black to separate the Navidson from all other normal, random houses, but that assertion is already made.

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    I checked the thread out, MoleculaRR*. Thank you.


    Quote Originally Posted by hugopunkhugo
    pg. 708 is just a Random (publishing), not THE on Ash Tree Lane.

    nevermind. i thought this could be in black to separate the Navidson from all other normal, random houses, but that assertion is already made.
    Well, but every other Randomhouse is in blue, isn't it?

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    I think he just broke the code: House
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    ;

    /\/\ how'd you do that?? /\/\

    just some more bits, P. never uses the word 'house'. also, on my book (2nd edition paperback 3rd printing, blueprint and compass rose emblem cover) the word 'house' is printed in white twice on the back cover, once in Random and again in www.randomhouse.com. both of these appear in blue on the back of the title page.

    i still want to know about those two 'on's on pg. 438.

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    What? Spell "House"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday
    House
    Smartass.

    edit: wtf?

    my formatting went away. stupid boards.

    Hou[i ][/i]se (without that one space) is how he did it.

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    I know.

    Somehow, hacking the color of words like "Minotaur" really isn't that fascinating.
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    I wanted to see how long this would go on before someone thought to quote me.
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    Yeah, but Randomhouse still doesn't have a blue house. Shouldn't that feature be added? I mean anyhouse should be a blue house.

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    Only the Random House on p. 708 is black (that and all the houses in the Index ). There's a whole bunch of Random Houses on the Copyright page, and one in footnote 358 (p. 385).
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    Quote Originally Posted by fearful_syzygy
    Only the Random House on p. 708 is black (that and all the houses in the Index ). There's a whole bunch of Random Houses on the Copyright page, and one in footnote 358 (p. 385).
    No, I meant in the forum. Just as the word house is in blue even when it is part of a word (whorehouse), it should be so in the forum. Would be a nice feature--albeit a somewhat pointless one.

    (And also difficult to implement. in blue is easy: just use PHPBB's cussword filter--this is what nikhsub did, I'm sure).
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    i sure wish we could get back to the topic of those two ons.

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    There are two of them. WOW! \/
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    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    ...lodges on on a step...
    Whoa. ... you know how the dog and cat couldn't enter the hallway?

    "on on a step" turned around... "pets a no no"


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    Oh shit...

    my brain just broke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    "on on a step" turned around... "pets a no no"
    Tell me you knew that before! Somebody tell me you knew that before!
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    Yeah... mine, too. I am still working on a stronger comprehension of all this. Perhaps incorporating the placement of text on the page... I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sutrix
    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    "on on a step" turned around... "pets a no no"
    Tell me you knew that before! Somebody tell me you knew that before!
    I am not sure what you meant by that. I just looked at it and was playing with the letters... and turned it around and read it and then I stopped moving. Then I made the post.

    Are you saying that you knew this before?

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    "on" means "we" in french....probably completely useless but still....
    ...And then the nightmares will begin...

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    Quote Originally Posted by julie
    "on" means "we" in french....probably completely useless but still....
    Quote Originally Posted by MZD
    ...lodges on on a step...
    with french... "lodges we on a step" or "lodges on we a step"

    maybe "lodges we on a step" is useful but most likely useless. thanks, though.

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    lodges we we a step...

    tired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellimist
    Are you saying that you knew this before?
    Nope. I didn't know.

    I asked you if you knew this before because your discovery is a bonafide, certified new one, never before made in any thread--as far as I can say. And to think some say we've discovered all there is to discover (not pointing a finger at f_s's quirky song, mind you).
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    Quote Originally Posted by sutrix
    I asked you if you knew this before because your discovery is a bonafide, certified new one, never before made in any thread--as far as I can say. And to think some say we've discovered all there is to discover (not pointing a finger at f_s's quirky song, mind you).
    Ah, got it. It is original. Thanks!

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