Effects/Nightmares

**goodoldlaura** · 07-11-2003, 02:24 AM

fat, i think crass is your alter ego, your other conflicting personality. you just don't know it yet because you can't remember posting as crass... hmmmm, infact, everyone here could just be all one person with a hundred personalities, that would make sense... you are all mzd, fooling me into thinking you're all separate! hmpf, i won't be fooled. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

**fatwoul** · 07-11-2003, 02:38 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mort:
fat, i think crass is your alter ego, your other conflicting personality. you just don't know it yet because you can't remember posting as crass... hmmmm, infact, everyone here could just be all one person with a hundred personalities, that would make sense... you are all mzd, fooling me into thinking you're all separate! hmpf, i won't be fooled. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Everyone posting on here is the same person.

But we aren't MZD.

We are all you. [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

**Themnoria** · 07-11-2003, 07:45 AM

Crass-I never said D. You were wishing for D.

**JuggaloStatix** · 07-11-2003, 08:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mort:
fat, i think crass is your alter ego, your other conflicting personality. you just don't know it yet because you can't remember posting as crass... hmmmm, infact, everyone here could just be all one person with a hundred personalities, that would make sense... you are all mzd, fooling me into thinking you're all separate! hmpf, i won't be fooled. [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

DAMN didnt think she'd find out...now we must turn her into a MZD like us...

**crass** · 07-11-2003, 08:49 AM

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**goodoldlaura** · 07-11-2003, 05:50 PM

i feel the fabric of my reality tearing to peices! it's all becoming clear... now if only i could pull an Edward Norton [img]images/smiles/icon_razz.gif[/img]

**goodoldlaura** · 07-11-2003, 06:01 PM

Back on topic, i haven't gotten any nightmares from this book--i always seem to have dreams that im having gay sex, though, but no one is gay in the book, right?(although i suspect Lude...) so that can't be it, and dreams about girls arent exactly nightmares.... [img]images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]

**invaderleeisme** · 07-12-2003, 01:45 PM

I've had nightmares, but I don't think any of them have been caused by HoL yet. I could be wrong, but they just don't seem to have anything to do with it... you know, people controlling others to kill, that sort of thing. Doesn't mean I won't though, I'm sure, as the book horrifies me. I'll probably be one of those people that it takes a year for the nightmares to truly kick in.

**1exist** · 07-12-2003, 06:41 PM

I just got back from vacation so this is all quite new to me...

Welcome Themnoria. Don't mind the weather.

**imitation is suicide** · 07-13-2003, 12:35 AM

i dont dream much, or at least i dont remember much, except when i'm reading HoL. nothing exciting though, neverending staircases yawn black hallways. it was fun at first but now its getting old.

except last night i had a weird dream, lude was my... boyfriend, i suppose. we got together with an old friend of mine who i havent seen for years, and worked out how to steal cars from high security car parks.

somehow we figured out that if the two lifts in the car park were on certain floors at the same time, none of the cars alarms or security systems would work, and we'd have about a minute or so in which we could open the doors and start the engines... what else happened i dont really know or remember.

it was interesting. lude was quite yummy.

and this thread is amusing [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

**malakite** · 07-14-2003, 02:03 PM

i think flaze was gay. but i could be wrong. im not the one having dreams about gay sex.

**Knuzt** · 07-14-2003, 05:02 PM

Lude is male.
Lude is a hairdresser.
Lude is gay.

**malakite** · 07-14-2003, 06:22 PM

he does make a good point.

though, i still think that the name 'flaze' sounds like gay carribean love-slave.

**silver474** · 07-14-2003, 07:56 PM

According to dream interpretation books (read as: take this as you will), same sex intercourse (especially when you yourself are not gay) often means you are struggling to come to terms with a part of your personality/identity that is submerged or hidden.

Sex with a friend often means you are excited about sharing a part of yourself with them (non-sexual) or you are growing closer to them.

Sex with someone you dislike often means you need to start moderating your anger or negative feelings toward them; it is growing too intense.

"Often means," I say, because even dream books are quick to point out that sometimes sexual dreams happen just because you have a lack of sexual activity in waking life, and it's your subconscious' way of balancing things out when you ain't gettin' any.

**fatwoul** · 07-15-2003, 03:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by silver474:
...even dream books are quick to point out that sometimes sexual dreams happen just because you have a lack of sexual activity in waking life, and it's your subconscious' way of balancing things out when you ain't gettin' any.

Explain the fact that I never have any sort of dreams apart from just strange ones then. No rutting, just strangeness. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]

**Ra-ra** · 07-15-2003, 05:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by fatwoul:

Explain the fact that I never have any sort of dreams apart from just strange ones then. No rutting, just strangeness. [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]

Perhaps you just dont remember the saucy ones... For some reason I am always kissing guys I feel indifferent about in my dreams and its always very vivid.

**fatwoul** · 07-15-2003, 09:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ra-ra:
Perhaps you just dont remember the saucy ones... For some reason I am always kissing guys I feel indifferent about in my dreams and its always very vivid.

I actually remember very few dreams anymore, because I have learned to sleep properly.

I read ages ago that sleep works in blocks of 90 minutes, and that provided you don't interrupt a block, and only sleep in multiples of 90 minutes, you will feel better. But according to an article I just read in New Scientist, REM seems to occur at roughly 90 minute intervals too, in such a way I would expect to remember more dreams than I do. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img]

**Ra-ra** · 07-15-2003, 03:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fatwoul:

I actually remember very few dreams anymore, because I have learned to sleep properly.

I read ages ago that sleep works in blocks of 90 minutes, and that provided you don't interrupt a block, and only sleep in multiples of 90 minutes, you will feel better. But according to an article I just read in New Scientist, REM seems to occur at roughly 90 minute intervals too, in such a way I would expect to remember more dreams than I do. [img]images/smiles/icon_sad.gif[/img]

Heh, yes, I always find I remember dreams more often if Im woken up, rather than if I awake naturally.

[ July 15, 2003: Message edited by: Ra-ra ]

**malakite** · 07-15-2003, 05:00 PM

with me its just the opposite. i am more likely to remember a dream if i wake up naturally.

does that make me a freak? i mean, more of one than i already am?

**silver474** · 07-15-2003, 11:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fatwoul:
Explain the fact that I never have any sort of dreams apart from just strange ones then.

Your mileage may vary? [img]images/smiles/icon_confused.gif[/img]

**goodoldlaura** · 07-16-2003, 03:40 AM

Silver, i think you pretty much nailed me(no pun intended?), especially with the part about me dealing with some aspect of my personality or identity that is hidden, that and i haven't gotten any for a while.

**Ra-ra** · 07-16-2003, 03:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by malakite:
with me its just the opposite. i am more likely to remember a dream if i wake up naturally.

does that make me a freak? i mean, more of one than i already am?

Perhaps its more to do with how soon you wake after an REM episode has finished... so no, I dont think that makes you a freak [img]images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

**imitation is suicide** · 07-17-2003, 05:36 PM

Not nightmares/dreams.

What am I scared of?

I don't know... but I do know that for whatever reason, reading this book, analysing this book, even reading this message board, can put some highly irrational fear into me, the kind that freezes you, makes you want to keep your eyes only where they are now, not look behind you or out of a window (made worse when it's dark)...

I am not an irrational or jumpy person by nature. It takes a lot to scare or worry me. Usually...
I don't fear plane crashes, spontaneous combustion, chip pan fires or fatal diseases, I don't fear tax inspectors or dentists, I am not afraid of being mugged, abandoned, lost, or anything similar.

I don't believe in walls shifting and hallways yawning as they stretch, I don't believe in ghosts, and I certainly don't believe in monsters or minotaurs after my blood (or flourescent markers).

But this book... places this fear in me that I cannot explain, and it's so silly, yet when it takes hold it's also so real.

I just wanted to get that out, maybe someone can relate. That would be vaguely comforting.

I'm also quite drunk, and this makes my fear a little heightened, as opposed to relaxing my judgement and believing I'm invincible.

winged_banana · 07-18-2003, 06:21 AM

I just started reading it yesterday. I don't think I had any BAD dreams last night, per se, but I kept waking up and my apartment felt bigger, more silent and more unfamiliar. I had to comfort myself with reasonable thoughts more than once while reading. The bathroom door was pulled closed and I didn't want to open it.

**Leanbh Sidhe** · 07-18-2003, 08:14 AM

i'm not sure i'd call it an effect of the book, because it's sort of how i was introduced to the book: i had very vivid nightmares when i was six or seven about getting lost in hallways in a cathedral or church(according to my parents, i did) and the lights eventually dying and not being able to find the walls.. just being in this infinite dark space afraid to move because somewhere the floor might end.

i mentioned this to my psychiatrist a couple of years ago and she said "wow, i read a book that involves similar hallways [sadistic shrink, no?]" i read the book.. and cathedral nightmares came back for a short time, but they had less effect on me than they did when i was six or seven and didn't last as long (a few weeks)

other than that, i'm only afraid to turn off the lights if i've been reading it too recently [img]images/smiles/icon_smile.gif[/img]

**Kelly J Pendergrast** · 07-18-2003, 03:35 PM

It's like this...
I'm walking down the circular staircase for ages and ages, then i get to a hallway at the bottom. i start walking, but i'm totally freaked cos it's pitch black (of course) and the only thing i have with me is a toothbrush (d'oh). i hold the toothbrush out in front of me like a weapon and it lights up like a torch (yay). down the corridor in front of me i see someone, and it turns out to be the breakfast dj from the local student radio station (who's about four foot ten.) he's wearing a vinyl spaceman suit, and he does a little butt-waggling dance at me.
that's it

**fatwoul** · 07-19-2003, 06:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kelly mutates:
It's like this...
I'm walking down the circular staircase for ages and ages, then i get to a hallway at the bottom. i start walking, but i'm totally freaked cos it's pitch black (of course) and the only thing i have with me is a toothbrush (d'oh). i hold the toothbrush out in front of me like a weapon and it lights up like a torch (yay). down the corridor in front of me i see someone, and it turns out to be the breakfast dj from the local student radio station (who's about four foot ten.) he's wearing a vinyl spaceman suit, and he does a little butt-waggling dance at me.
that's it

Sounds to me like you've discovered your power animal.

Slide...

**ninziestar** · 07-21-2003, 09:38 AM

I am reading it for the second time, I'm only on chapter four, but I know the first time, I felt a HUGE void in my life when I was done. I suppose because 'it' is so large, that once you leave 'it' it's not really gone, and you are used to being in the house, that when I'm not, my life is somewhat more incomplete.

**The Red Head** · 07-29-2003, 06:51 AM

I have been reading this forum for some time now and really enjoy it...
Anywhay I havent posted yet cause I am very much a newbie, anywho:

I did an 8 hour reading session last weekend and then went to sleep at about 3am or so. My girlfriend and I just moved to a new apartment a few days ago so I wasnt used to the floor plan. I sure as hell didnt know where the fucking bathroom was in a sleep-dazed drunkin (oh I had been drinking a little and by a little I mean a-lot) mind set. So I get up and girlfriend not there (slept on the couch or some shit) and I must've been dreaming about HOL cause when I got lost going to the bathroom in the blackness of the rooms I kinda freaked out and had my own little HOL experience.
Very, very surreal.

**Ellacia** · 07-29-2003, 03:00 PM

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I DID TELL YOU TO GO AWAY BUT YOU WOULDNT DO IT! YOU DIDNT TAKE ONE FUCKING HINT! IF YOU WERE HAVING SUCH A BAD DAY THAN WHY DID YOU BOTHER LOOKING UP ZAMPANO IN THE DIRECTORY AND THEN START TALKING TO ME ABOUT JT'S WARNING COMING TRUE FOR YOU? YOURE A FUCKING LIAR.

This is the guy I'm being compared to? Oh shit....

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